When I last interviewed Janice Dickinson in June 2006 to promote the first season of her docudrama, The Janice Dickinson Modeling Agency, she called me “an asshole for asking such a stupid question” and hung up. To be fair, I probably deserved it (I asked if she thought Ashlee Simpson had really gotten a nose job). And to be honest, that abrupt “click” remains a career highlight. Dickinson was in a much better mood when we recently caught up again by phone to discuss her show’s upcoming fourth season, in which the “world’s first supermodel” moves in with her models. Perhaps her sunnier yet no less sassy disposition stemmed from the fact that we rarely strayed from one of her favorite topics: the gays.
By Brandon Voss
HX: How are you, Janice?
Janice Dickinson: Good! I’m sitting in the heart of homosexuality, the Santa Monica Equinox Gym. And you know what? Eat your fucking heart out.
The homos must be swarming you.
They drop rose petals wherever I go.
I’m loving Martin, your new gay model this season. In fact, I’m kind of hoping that he and J.P. Calderon hook up in the house.
I don’t know if that would be the best thing for little Martin. He’s so young and innocent. But that’s something I wouldn’t encourage or discourage; as long as I don’t know about it…
Well, a lot can happen after a few poolside cocktails. I was actually surprised to see your models freely boozing it up this season without you freaking out on them. Don’t you have a problem with that?
Yes, I do have a problem with it, but these kids are over 18. I can’t beat people up just because they’ve had a drink. So you won’t see me throwing martini glasses. Besides, I was really doing it because there’s one kid on the show who we adore, Kehoe, who — like me at his age — opens his mouth way too much, drinks way too much and does whatever else he does way too much. And he does it for effect. It basically leads me to the big question: Are you straight or are you gay? That’s the whole question for little Kehoe the entire season. Just come out already!
J.P.’s arguably your most well-known model, but do gay models ever have to be concerned career-wise about coming out in the industry?
No, I don’t think so, but I don’t really see things like that. It’s maddening to me that there are still people in the closet. I applaud anyone who comes out. I want to throw a party for them. I want people to have pride.
But have you ever had to tell any of your gay models to butch it up?
Oh, yeah. Totally. It’s like, Mary, grow a dick!
Were you aware of your former model Rodrigo De Carli’s gay porn past before you hired him? And how do you feel about the fact that he’s now working with Lucas Entertainment under the nom-de-porn Claudio Martin?
I don’t have a problem with gay porn. What’s wrong with gay porn? It allows people to encapsulate what their fantasies are. Is that so bad? I think Rodrigo had other issues that were far too severe, which is the reason he’s not with the agency anymore; I’m not going to go into depth about it, but he knows what they are. As far as him having a colorful past? Look, as long as you don’t sodomize children, this is the United States of America — the Fifth Amendment, Larry Flynt, yes! I see nothing wrong with gay porn.
The media is currently eating up the fact that there’s a trans model on the upcoming cycle of Top Model.
Oh, please. I did it on my show first with Claudia. But you know what? There’s not going to be a moment where Tyra’s not going to knock me off, so I’m not bothered by her.
Is there really room for a trans model in the industry?
I think that there’s room for a gorgeous transsexual if he or she has her shit together. Transsexuality is gorgeous. My Claudia was gorgeous, and that bitch had a beat on her walk that could blow anyone away.
Have you ever received a little note or phone call from Tyra to congratulate you on the success of your show?
Are you fucking kidding me? Hell, no. Never. Nothing.
Believe it, baby. Nor did I ever get a note or call thanking me for helping to put her show on the map. Whatever. She’s not my favorite person.
Why do we never get a glimpse into your own dating life on the show?
I’m going to go on the record here and be honest with you since we’re friends now: I’ve been dating a man for a long time, but he doesn’t want anything to do with being on camera, so I respect that. Besides, that’s not what the show’s about. But listen, please tell all your queens to tune in this season. I’m a friend of the gays, so the gays have to return the favor — and see some hot bodies. I will not let my gays down!
HX, August 2008; extended online version.